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Silvia
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Radical Muslims threaten women's minister
By David Rogers

A banned radical Islamic organisation has sent a threatening letter to Social Democratic (SPÖ) Women’s Minister Gabriele Heinisch-Hosek after she called for a ban on burkas, according to the Österreich newspaper.

The newspaper reported today (Weds) that the Hizb ut-Tahrir organisation based in Lebanon had sent it a three-page email after Christmas in which it condemned the minister’s remarks last week and threatened her using the sentence from the Koran: "And know that Allah is strong in punishment."

The organisation’s Vienna spokesman Shaker Assem also called "on Austrian Muslims to cease supporting the SPÖ".

Österreich said it had handed the document to the Federal Crime Office (BK), adding that to date there had been no serious investigation of Islamic fundamentalists in Austria.

Hizb ut-Tahrir – which experts say is the first transnational organisation dominated by Palestinians calling for a caliphate or world-wide Islamic state - is considered dangerous and was banned in 2003 in Germany for its support of violence.

A spokesperson for Heinisch-Hosek said her ministry had been in contact with the Office for Protection of the Constitution and the Fight against Terrorism and was taking the matter very seriously.

Some Austrian media have reported that the Office for Protection of the Constitution and the Fight against Terrorism has had Hizb ut-Tahrir under observation.

In her comments in several interviews on 23 December, Heinisch-Hosek had said: "I consider the burka a sign of the submission of women. It greatly hinders women from finding jobs in the labour market. If more women wearing burkas appear in Austria, I will test a ban on them and enact administrative fines for women wearing them in public buildings."

She added that Islam was a danger to women’s rights when it led to "politically fundamentalist-oriented policies" such as the mandatory wearing of burkas.

Austrian Times
http://www.austriantimes.at/news/General_News/2009-12-30/19256/Radical_Muslims_threaten_women%27s_minister
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kavin
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:45 pm    Post subject: daddy, big brother and .... Reply with quote

Luvwines wrote:
I wouldn't take that blog seriously when they state this, "The Christian religion has changed over the years until it’s no longer identifiable as it was known in the early days. It has gradually grown kinder and more civilized as human beings have matured."
This could be discussed herein http://www.islamdaddy.com/ and sometimes Christianity does come out as more militant Mr. Green similar to the followers of Islam, Muslims & ofcourse the originals- Jewish Tongue in Cheek 3-in-1 Monotheist brothers at each others throats.

What happened to the ban?? Typical, something proposed and probably promised too and later on nothing- just2pure-politik
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:31 am    Post subject: What do you think is the reason for the purported ban? Reply with quote

What do you think, is the reason they want to ban them? My guess is either a) because of (post 9/11 world) security. I.e. we need to see who you are, in case you do something bad. Or, b) perhaps is it to preserve 'Western' culture, i.e. keep out offensive (Muslim) infiltration.

Let's remember Esau and Ismael have been fighting for more than 1000 years (e.g Crusades, 9/11 and more).

What do you think is the reason behind the proposed ban? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

first of all hi, english is not my first language so if you dont understand what im try to say, please say it Rolling Eyes

about the burka im going to give my opinion

this is a catholic country( even that im not catholic), and women doesnt use these things(burka). Emigrate to another country is like going to a friends house, he or" she have her/his house rules", "my house my rules", your house your rules. So if these people are going to move to austria, they have to adapt to the sociaty and their idiosyncrasy, here in viena normally austrian women doesnt use burka, so these muslim women should not use it.

Second, if a women use this burka, the police cant know her identity and people can take advantage of that, let me give you and example:

I can use this burka, and kill inocent with a gun or a knife,stole things for a store, more bad things etc and everyone coulnt know my identity

to finish this post

My house my rules: if i dont want you smoking in my place, please dont do it, or please get away of my house, if you want to enter stopped smoking

If you are going to emigrate to a different country: adapt to the sociaety, learn their language( german)
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kavin
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: What do you think is the reason for the purported ban? Reply with quote

Randolph wrote:
...What do you think is the reason behind the proposed ban? Rolling Eyes
NESPRESO, What else?

N- No of suicides high among `burka´ women.
E- Escapism - refuse to take personal responsibility as the price for freedom & progress. If encouraged continues to lead to subservient thinking by woman & MEN!!
S- Social Inequality (Gender & Social Discrimination)
P- Primitive (incl. Human Rights Violation and treating women as Procreation Kits/Units).
R- Restrain from Reforms - Islamic societies are against social reforms.
E- Education (Resorting to Negative forms of Traditional Methods/Tactics) and VERY Misleading as to what constitutes + defines morality & security for women _family!!)
S- Security (Lack of transparency, threat potential- high- anytime, anywhere; themselves are Easy victims/targets as their ability to assert + mobility is vastly incapacitated/reduced or basically removed!)
O- Overkill (Destroying what little progress emancipation of women managed after all these centuries of subordination to mankind&monotheism + bio-suffering Tongue in Cheek AND especially the recent years of `blood, sweat & tears´ that took to some development- sort of equal status for women in @least some fields.
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mikevienna
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 7:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nespresso has 3 "s" in it's name Kavin.
http://www.nespresso.com/#/at/de
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikevienna wrote:
Nespresso has 3 "s" in it's name Kavin.
http://www.nespresso.com/#/at/de
LOL but that's GeAEnGlisch (Germanic_Austrian-AINGlisch) (a kind of SNAFU) Mr. Green
It could get worse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OBvd5MgPYA
still -- One `S´is missing to say that Burka is just sexism! Tongue in Cheek

Getting back to the Burka issue - there is no such thing as liberal/real Islam, as long as women continue to be enslaved:
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/29/bangladesh.lashing.death/index.html?iref=obinsite
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