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November 15, 2012 at 6:45 pm #1486
Reading through ads for home renovations, i started to wonder why they don’t post their real names and country of origin.
I would not contact someone anonymous from the internet without some kind of formal identification.
It’s not like buying an Ikea shelf. Really, guys, get serious, if you want some enquiries.
Here – free customer feedback for you.November 16, 2012 at 9:11 am #2356LuvwinesMember
Jim from America. Better?November 16, 2012 at 4:29 pm #2357SilviaMember
Because they give you a phone number or E-mail to learn more about them?November 19, 2012 at 9:40 pm #2359
what stops them from writing their names in the irst place? Should I be doing a detective work myself?! and then invite them to my home?!
No way. they should show some credibility for me to even pick up a phoneNovember 19, 2012 at 11:28 pm #2360chefsmithMember
I’d say they are delighted not to get your call to be honest 😛
They’re not exactly expecting you to drop a child off to them or to give them 50 grand to look after, its an Ad to see if anybody would like some work done on their house, nothing to lose by giving them a call…..
I’ve been trying to figure you out for a while now blueorange, I cant.
You winNovember 20, 2012 at 5:15 pm #2362
Hey Everyone, 😀
Not sure if this post subject has anything to do with the advert that I put up for a friend of mine, but it seems a little coincidental that this thread started the day after the ad was released.
If it is in relation to my ad, then I am very confused. Allow me to cut and paste a little snippet of the ad:
If what you need is not listed above, please do not hesitate to contact Ciaran with any queries ,requests or quotes.
Are you seeing it yet? It does indeed have a name in there, which coincidentally enough is also a bit of a give-away to the origin of the person. It’s a very Celtic name, if you really couldn’t guess.
Now, is there any more information you so desire? I am more than happy to call Ciaran and ask him his birthdate if you want. Or, if you prefer you can call him yourself. His number is also included in the Ad, or shall I point it out for you too?
Wishing everyone else a lovely day! 😀 😀 😀November 20, 2012 at 5:27 pm #2363
last name, info about license in Austria would help too, website, references, years in business, pricing policy, etc etc – should I give you a free business consulting hour? and no, year of birth is not required, unless it’s later than 1995.
it was not just your ad, there were others before yours too.
If you are serious about your business (if it is a business and not a hobby), you should thank me for a free customer feedback and not laugh it off.
have a wonderful evening!November 21, 2012 at 10:35 am #2366
Are you actually interested in having something done? If so, feel free to call and ask. I am sure Ciaran will answer all your questions, and help you with any ideas you have. He is a talented and capable man, that prefers the personal touch.
If not, then what are you worrying about? How other people conduct their businesses/hobbies/pastimes? If they make “bad advertising” choices let them live and learn. But there is still more information in my post than you would find in a lot of adverts found in a normal yellow pages.
But hey-ho! You can make your own mind up. Freedom of choice and all that. I guess you can’t please everyone.
I hope you are all having a lovely sunny day, somewhere! 😀November 21, 2012 at 2:08 pm #2372chefsmithMember
oh oh oh, you can start doing your ads Austrian CV style, with passport photos in the corner…
And a reference from your headmistress…..November 21, 2012 at 2:45 pm #2373
:mua: :mua: :mua:November 21, 2012 at 4:33 pm #2374forestMember
what in gods name would make them more reliable by stating their last name! Info about a license in Austria…what freakin license are you talking about BlueOrange? Pricing policy; you pay for what you agree to, for goodness sake, what land are you living in? Please do not give them a free business consulting hour, why? Because you have already shown that you know nothing about business. You have advertised their services so much without even knowing it! The joke is on you right now.
@DizzyHunter: BO seems unable to be happy that others can take the plunge and start their own business, and seems to be incapable of being positive about that fact, since he/she works in an industry he/she is clearly unhappy with. BO is not happy with anything on this forum to be quite honest, its all about putting people down through his/her own problems in life. I think we all need to just feel sorry about that and hope that she/he finds happiness in life through another avenue, other than dissing people that clearly have a good idea and want to make it work. I think that most of us know what BO’s hobby is 🙂
@BlueOrange. I dont ask for “license agreements” in Austria when i go to the grocery store, or the bank, or any shop i go to. Nor do I see this on websites. What exactly is your point? And what does pricing policy mean anyway in your mind? Many companies do not advertise their prices online simply because they work in a “custom made” industry. How can they put a price list down in such an industry? Dont answer BO, its a rhetorical question.
Cant you just be supportive of people and not bring out your fecking sword every time someone has a new and exciting business to offer?
Sorry to others for this outburst but I’m a true believer in supporting anyone in their new ventures, and until its proven otherwise, I really cant see any platform for dissing them. Your comments are seriously out of order BO.November 21, 2012 at 6:16 pm #2376
i wish you were able to make a point forest instead of getting personal. there are some courses in critical reasoning that you might find useful.
because i never said anything about not supporting new ventures, so don’t refute the argument i never made 🙂November 21, 2012 at 6:24 pm #2377
by the way, DizzyHunter, do you or your friend with a Celtic name have a trade license from WKO for this work? thanks!November 21, 2012 at 6:37 pm #2378forestMember
evidently i made a point, otherwise you wouldnt be responding. And stop asking about the Celtic name, his name is Ciaran. I didnt get personal, I got to the point, which i realise you are unable to see. Who are you to ask them if they have a license from the WKO?November 21, 2012 at 8:45 pm #2379kiwibevParticipant
Reading though the lists of comments I find it rather interesting and would like to put in my two bobs worth from a self employed contractor who offers services to the English community in the Vienna area.
First I would simply like to point out that there is reason to make statements about how people advertise for work and what licenses they have. There has been a very large number of English speaking people who have arrived over here without the skill of German and find themselves unable to get work so simply take to throwing in an add on such web sites where English speaking people are. And claiming they are so called experts in there field of work. Many have left there customers with a large repair bill by not being a trades person at all.
I would also point out that we trades people do understand that when we enter a customers home we are in fact invading there privacy and we take care to let our customers fell comfortable with having us in there home, and that we can be trusted to do our work while they are not home or at work. To be a Trades person is not just to hold some form of license. But to know our trade inside out and back to front so to speak. To leave the home as you find it clean and tidy and all work done in a tradesman like manner.
Over the past 30 odd years I pride myself on these facts and that I can offer my customers real trade advice and also work with many other trades people who are experts at there trade. I would never offer a customer to work on something that I could not supply top workmanship on but would pass this work onto specialists of that trade, including top Austrian trades people.
At the moment there are around 5 top trades people who are native English speakers in and around Vienna whom I would only be to happy to pass work onto if I can not find the time but there are many other people whom call them selves trades people!!!
Normally a trades person has there own tools complete, there own trade auto and all things that are needed, I do find on many occasions that people do ask me things like do you have a ladder! Or should I supply tools, which may seem funny to us but in fact we find out that the last person they had doing work did not have such things.
We do get our problems at times which we do try to settle,
We do get the following,
Oh I only wanted to pay 5 euro to fix our cupboard or now you have done the job thanks its really good work but I want a discount! Sorry we are trades people who run a business we pay our tax, we pay our health insurance, we pay for our autos and tools, and we charge the minimum amount that we can afford to do after over 40% gets taken out for tax and health insurance, we are not a Turkish bizza like lots of expats think.
Yes there are lots of workers from the old eastern block country who will do the work for far cheaper than we can they are black workers and there workmanship is as what they charge, there is also many good workers from these areas but I have found the good trades people from there charge the same rates as we do. Same old story get what you pay for with no sympathy from real trades people.
This is a free world we hopefully live in and I would never rubbish any real trades person from having a go at getting there business going here in Austria.
I do put my real name to my adverts with my real phone number and email address where people who wish work to be done can feel free to call me and discuss there needs without commitment, I also offer free quotations.
BC Construction. And handyman services.
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